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daniel: Un nuevo juego: el juego de la ambigüedad. POdéis también seguir jugando a los SWIFTIES, donde ha habido novedades: tres nuevos mensajes!!
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4/24/2004

19:19

 EL JUEGO DE MAUTHNER

Conté este juego en el weblog Las alas de Ícaro. Copio aquí el texto

"Búsquese en un diccionario manual cualquiera una palabra, mientras más corriente mejor, y se podrá seguir, por ejemplo, en la parte alemán-francés, la evolución etimológica en alemán, y en la parte francés-alemán la evolución en francés; y ver claramente después, con la comparación de ambas historias etimológicas, lo casual de este proceso" (Contribuciones a una crítica del lenguaje , 143).

Es decir se coge una palabra que exista en dos idiomas y se ve su evolución etimológica, lo que probablemente dará resultados sorprendentes. Quien quiera jugar, será bien recibido en este juego que parece desmontar, me temo, las teorías de los filoetimólogos (los filósofos que buscan en la etimología la razón de las cosas).


24 de abril de 2004

Con lo de los filoetimólogos me refería a que hay muchos filósofos que piensan que las cosas se pueden explicar conociendo el origen de la palabra que designa esa cosa. Aunque es cierto que en muchas ocasiones el origen de una palabra ayuda a comprender muchas cosas, esta es una de esas típicas verdades que se han convertido en errores porque son llevadas al extremo y se quieren aplicar a todas las cosas. Que yo sepa, el primer filoetimólogo, el primero que usó la etimología para demostrar y explicar la realidad fue Platón, quien a menudo, dicen los expertos, se inventaba incluso la etimología de las palabras para así demostrar mejor su tesis.

 Entre los filoetimólogos posteriores, creo que hay dos escuelas principales: la que considera que el idioma que esconde la realidad es el griego y quienes se inclinan por el alemán. Sé también que al parecer algunos pensadores árabes aseguran que en árabe no se puede decir nada falso por la misma esencia del lenguaje árabe, lo que resulta muy difícil de creer.

Naturalmente, los filoetimólogos más sofisticados seguramente son los estudiosos de la Cábala y los escritores talmúdicos, que encontraban en cada palabra, frase y letra uno o varios sentidos ocultos. Hace años escribí un cuento que trataba de esto: La Nueva Teología.

En el primer comentario pongo un ejemplo que quizá ayude a entender el juego de Mauthner.

 

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Posted by Daniel Tubau:

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La palabra latina clavis pasó al castellano con el sentido de "llave". Siglos después, en el uso culto, la palabra clavis se convirtió en "clave". Eso explica que en el fondo una clave es una llave: es algo que sirve para abrir algo que está cerrado, para destapar un misterio oculto, etcétera.

(Para añadir ejemplos que conozcais imitad el estilo en el que se presenta esta entrada: los dos idiomas en los que evoluciona la palabra y el idioma de origen)
4/24/2004 @ 19:32

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(COMENTARIO)
En el ensayo Elogio de la infidelidad, hablaba de los filoetimólogos y ponía el ejemplo más o menos real de la etimología de la palabra religión. Lo copio aquí:

"Sin embargo, hay otra legión de filósofos del lenguaje que no son los filósofos del lenguaje propiamente dichos: son quienes buscan en el origen y la evolución de las palabras la solución de los problemas. Se les puede llamar filoetimólogos, porque confían en que la etimología proporcione las respuestas a problemas que parecían insolubles.
Por ejemplo, ¿qué es la religión? Los filoetimólogos responden:
“Religión es lo que une, porque religión viene de "religo/as" unir lo que estaba separado. ¿Y qué unión es esta? La que ha de existir entre el hombre y Dios, o entre el hombre y la naturaleza, o entre el hombre y la humanidad. Unión, en cualquier caso de algo separado, concepto amplio que nos permite abandonar la idea trivial de un Dios personal y aceptar que también el budismo es una religión, una religión sin Dios, como sostenía Helmunt von Glasenapp .”

Si esto se pronuncia con suficiente solemnidad, puede causar un gran efecto en la audiencia, que queda narcotizada momentáneamente."
4/24/2004 @ 19:34

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Es curioso el doble viaje de la palabra tiza, de origen náhuatl (azteca), aquí ha venido a significar sobre todo el utensilio para escribir en las pizarras, y yeso lo utilizamos para referirnos a la roca. En cambio en sudamérica emplean yeso para nuestra tiza y viceversa
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